Your Maps, Your Language
Here in India, we speak several hundred languages amongst the billion of us. Even the Government officially recognizes 23 of them. No single person can possibly learn all Indian Languages in his lifetime and so, most of us make do with a few. Yahoo! India Maps ( http://in.maps.yahoo.com ) is no exception. After sitting through a lot of language courses, Yahoo! India Maps has now learnt to speak nine languages (Hindi, Bengali, Telugu, Tamil, Punjabi, Gujarati, Oriya, Kannada & Malayalam) apart from English. Watch out for the "Vernacular" button along with "Map", "Satellite" and "Hybrid" buttons to see an area in it's primary language. We have covered the major cities and towns and will expand the "Language Map view" to other regions in the time to come.
Personally, Maps in vernacular languages is magical for me. Because for once, my Grand-moms and Grand-dads will get to see and understand what I do all day long sitting at Yahoo!.
We have also released "Walking directions" along with this push. If you are the one who walks, You could simply type a query like "Walk from Yahoo! egl bangalore to Yahoo! MG road, bangalore". Alternatively, You could also choose the "Walk this Route" link on the right pane when you have driving directions.
Yahoo India Maps as a pincode service
My dad used to be a master of pincodes in Chennai. He has been and around Chennai for such a long time that he can beat the Head Post Master to his Job. Infact, it was one of our favorite time pass activities. I used to get hold of an yearly diary that had Pincodes of Chennai city as an addendum and then I will pick and ask Pincodes of random and weird localities that nobody goes to in Chennai. And he used to be right every time.
Now, You don't have to live in a city for 30 years to know it's pincodes. You can leave that job to Yahoo India Maps . The next time you have a pincode with you and you are wondering where that place is, go ask Yahoo India Maps.
For instance, 600001 is Chennai GPO, 560034 is Koramangala, bangalore. Those are my places. What Pincode are you?
Nokia Maps on my N73
Inspired by Pradeep B V's comment on my earlier post, I went on to check if Nokia has any (updated) Maps for my Nokia Phone (N73). My phone does not have GPS like the Nokia Navigator, but nevertheless, Maps on mobile (with GPRS for Search) can still come in very handy. Also, my phone came pre packaged with a dumb local application (with maps), but it only used to show the outline of India. Now, I have seen that many times in my sixth class Geography and that level of map is not useful for any god damn thing, let alone Local Search.
So, I started from here , downloaded and installed the "Nokia Maps" application over to my phone and then downloaded and installed a windows only (Infact, you won't even find the download link on firefox on windows. Visit the link on IE) application over to my PC. And then, after a few glitches, I downloaded the India data pack.
The map data is from Navteq. And we all already know Navteq does not have the best data set for India. For instance, the data pack for China was about 190 MB whereas the India one was 21MB. (India is about a third in size compared to China).
I was checking in and around Bangalore and they have all the major roads named and searchable. But more importantly, because you can download the data pack into your mobile, you don't need a network connection to search or view the Map. That is cool, because GPRS (or EDGE, 2.5 G) is real slow for Maps. Also, there is no connectivity in places where you generally tend to get lost.
Now, the technology is also different when you compare this with Google Maps Mobile or Yahoo! Go. Nokia Maps is a vector map application. What that means is, the maps are rendered by an engine that understands shapes rather than showing images that have maps pre-rendered (aka raster maps ).
So, the application is smaller, renders what needs to be rendered and ignores layers and shapes when it needs to, It is probably a bit slower because of all the bits it needs to flip/flop before rendering the shape. I may be wrong here, that is just my guess.
I don't have GPS on my phone. Earlier, I tried to buy a bluetooth GPS receiver that I can hook up with my phone. But the pieces that I tried never worked with my phone and I gave up. So, I couldn't check if GPS worked well with the application and if the map is, infact, accurate.
Anyway, If you have a Nokia big smart phone, go download the maps. It will come in handy.
The best of geo web says hi to Yahoo India Maps
Be it Wikimapia or keyhole or any one of those innumerable sites that have geographic information, the community has painstakingly marked those bus stops and milk booths and restaurants and even houses. Probably for personal satisfaction. Or maybe to help those lost and stranded. With a billion helpful minds behind, India suddenly seems too small. And now it is payback time.
Starting today, Yahoo! India Maps will cut across the web so that the best of location intelligence is available to you behind one text box at http://in.maps.yahoo.com. Try "Mumbai cst" or "metro, Delhi" or "garuda mall, Bangalore" and you will know what we are talking about. Looking for ATMs near Forum mall? Try "ATMs near forum mall, Bangalore". Or maybe you are on that Motorbike drive across Chennai, "Shell petrol pumps in Chennai" will come in handy. These are locations that we have captured from various locations around the internet, wherever they exist.
And it does not stop with just that. Combine the mighty power of users with our unique Indian driving directions and suddenly, it seems like you may never be required to pull over and ask the pan-wallah for directions ever again. Yes, we know that many roads don't have names and when they do, they probably don't have sign boards indicating them. So, We thought landmarks and turns in your route instruction will help make it easier for you. Now, we have also added information about localities, towns, villages and cities along your route so that you know what you are leaving behind and what you are entering when you are on your journey.
Print it out or Send yourself an SMS and get going, because, getting lost is not so easy now.
I was at a watch repair shop at BDA, Complex in Bangalore and I was surprised to see a Google marker stuck on one of the side walls of the small shop. On Closer analysis, It revealed itself as a "Google India Local Maps" sticker that Google possibly has shipped it over to these guys.
So, did the shop owner marked himself on the map (Using My maps) and got the sticker shipped? Very unlikely. I dont think he has used email, let alone maps online. I also tried searching for "Clock repair" and could not find anything useful. Infact, I could not find "BDA complex" in Koramangala, Let alone the "clock work shop" inside it.
So, that just means someone came over and distributed these stickers? That is cheap.
Having said that, the idea rocks. First, They have gone really local. This is as random a shop as it can get. Not the kinds you will find even on yellow pages. Second, this is free physical contextual advertising. Not many people are online in India yet, and not many non-internet ( Newspapers or TV) ads are contextual. Now, things in the physical world that you can relate to on the internet which is (also) contextual, well..that is a killer combo. Precisely what made me come back home and search for "clock works" near my house in Google maps.
Sadak Map
Considering most of my posts are related to GIS, internet mapping and local anyway, Why not talk about a new entrant in the Indian internet mapping space? Called SadakMap
Sadak Map has "Mark your place" , and then another "ask a question/post a message with a location relevance". I guess it really is about a discussion forum with location specific topics. Mark a point? Well, I can do that on G Maps.
Firing a native event with Javascript..
Tech post after a really long time. And probably my first real piece of advicing in Javascript. So, take it with a pinch of salt. And tell me if I am writing something incorrect.
Ever wondered if it was possible to simulate a native event from your javascript code? Yes it is! Generally, you would probably have registered for an event and written all the logic in that callback. But sometimes, a need to do execute the same logic arises due to a completely unrelated event. To give you a real example, head over to this view of Yahoo! India maps. If you notice, clicking on any of the "local search element" on the right pane shades the element and also opens the marker. Now, clicking marker does the same thing too.
Instead of writing the code to shade the element all over again on the marker's click callback, what you could do is to fire a click element on the corresponding search element on the right pane.
As you would expect you would have to do this differently in firefox and IE. And it will look something like this:
incallbackfunction() { var fireOnThis = document.getElementById("yourunrelatedelement"); If(IE) { var e = document.createEventObject(); fireOnThis.fireEvent("onclick",e); } else { var e = document.createEvent("MouseEvents"); e.initMouseEvent('click',true,true,window,0,0,0,0,0,false,false,false,false,0,null); fireOnThis.dispatchEvent(e); } }
There are too many things to explain, but you should be able to get a hold of what is what with a little bit of search.
You still cant search for anything within India. You would still have to head over to Yahoo maps for that! :) But what strikes me is the clarity of the map when viewed on my Nokia N73. I was to go to a school for an admission for my brother. I just knew it was somewhere in Indiranagar. The "city local on telephone" guys like 080-22222222 and 080-2777777 were both unreachable at that point. I remembered G had many interesting points of interests on their maps. I just gave it a shot and I was able to find the school in 2 mins!
Again, Rock on google. What are you enabling search ?
So, whatz cool about YIM ?
I would like YIM to stand for Yahoo! India maps. Unofficially, a couple of us assumed our mission statement to be "Go Anywhere" . So, what is so cool ? Frankly, nothing as of now. Anyways, read on.
Firstly. We cannot find your house. I will be sweetly surprised if we can. We are far away from that. But it will happen. We dont give you driving directions just as yet. There are a few challenges there. We do have satellite and hybrid imagery for many popular places. We are quite comprehensive on mapping data when you consider whole of India. Our search is getting better. You still have to be very explicit and try out a few things before you get a hang of it. The link of the map you are viewing is always on your browser's address bar. You dont have to do anything special to get a link to the map. Just copy paste it. so, this is roughly where Yahoo is , in Bangalore.
Oh, by the way, there is no reason you should have to visit another destination to search for a non Indian address. If Yahoo! works for that address anywhere on the planet, you can have a look at it right here in India maps. Check out paris or 10, downing st, london here.
Are you used to searching for India by typing in http://wikipedia.org/wiki/India ? Try http://in.maps.yahoo.com/kolkata
You can search for Airport codes. For instance, IXB is baghdogra's airport code. You can get to it this way.
There are a lot more cool things in there waiting to be figured out and a lot is in store. I hope you all have a good time finding your places and like it as we move along.
Yahoo India maps, A Journey began
It has been a wonderful few past months. Yahoo India maps is a very special product for me. Ever since I joined Yahoo!, in bangalore, I have been wanting to do something for India. I guess it is my way of giving it back to my country. Also, I always believed indians deserved more and better. And my time finally arrived with maps. The levels of passion and interest India maps generated inside of me were unprecedented. At times, I was myself surprised. Sure, I did have my few ups and downs on the way, but who doesnt?
Maps was completely new to me. Now, I understand that it is, to India. Over the period I was with maps, I have learnt up quite a bit about GIS in general, the other open source activities around GIS in India etc. It seems pretty obvious that a large portion of the cake remains uncut. GIS and mapping activities are few and far apart in India. Mostly in research labs of companies trying to come out with GPS devices and in a few graduate institutions. There are a few enthusiast groups. But nothing of the levels of understanding and appreciation that you would see in the US and elsewhere. To say it has been a wonderful learning experience is an understatement.
And as lack of icing on top of this cake, many people, including me, begin to wonder if India really needs GIS and GPS. Havent we rolled down the windows of our cars and found many willing people to give directions? Havent we reached our places without any of these tech supplements? Is technology trying to do too much when we probably dont have tarred roads in most part of the country ? And when a sizable portion of the population dont possess a vehicle? Maybe there are a few corporate requirements for GIS. But, I am mostly a end consumer GIS person. I get convinced that was the case with most other inventions too. When the television came into existance, I am sure people were thinking "Why would I need it?, Am I not happy with the radio? "
In the days to come, according to my gut feel and from what I see around, Local and Yellowpages is going to be big in India. And if it is the case, Maps is going to be a lovely supplement. Maybe, maps will never take the podium in a long time. Here are some of the reasons:
1) we are a decade away from usable end-customer GIS data in India. My mom wouldnt give a damn if she cant find how to go to her bank from her home. For her, it will remain un-usable until we do that.
2) Indians perceive addresses very differently. We dont differentiate between a landmark and a point of interest and an address. I have found many people specifying "Opp. regal cinemas" even in postcards and envelopes.
3) Thanks to colonisation, we have every possible addressing schemes in the world here. I have been trying to write a regex to possibly parse and understand Indian addresses. I have hardly been successful.
4) As most places have local language names, which are proper vocabulary words in that language, it gets hard to understand what the user is trying to say when it gets to english. Road is called "marg" and "galli" and "pathai" and "veedhi" and "salai" and "vazhi", to name a few. To top it, every user prefers a unique spelling to the place. Is it Ahmadabad or Ahmedabad? Thiruvallur is right, so is thiruvellore and tiruvallur!
5) There are zillions of people out there who use public commute. I dont think we are doing any kinda service to them if we are not able to tell them when the next train to his preferred destination will arrive. Or which bus to catch where.
6) Considering there are no road signs and boards telling you what road it is, does it make sense to give directions based on road names? Do all roads have names? Are all roads motorable? Do we know if it is a one way? And if it becomes one way, is there standardized way with which the city corporation disseminates that information? I dont know!
I can go on to write more of these things. But the point being, maps is and will remain a challenge. It is going to be an interesting problem to solve. And when we do solve it well, I am confident people will embrace it. For now, maps will have to be looked upon as a supplement to local and a thing to mashup with.
Back to Yahoo! India maps, we have lots of interesting ideas. And there is no time to do all of them. Very soon, you will be able to mashup with our maps. It will be our honour and pride. And there are a few surprise elements too. We are confident you d love it. I will write another post on what is cool about what we have done in a bit.
Do you have a few suggestions? Let us know. We would love to consider it and possibly implement it.
Presenting in.maps.yahoo.com
Ladies and Gentlemen, Please welcome the newest member of the Yahoo! India family, Yahoo India Maps. Even as I would like to write a book on the "making of India maps", for now, I would just recommend you just get there and check it out for yourself.
Got any comments? Flames? Leave me a note. Leaving you with a picture that hopefully captures the mood amongst us and with you!